New to KIPR Open - asking some basic questions

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Hi All,

I am rather new to the KIPR Open idea, only having started involvement with my grandson in BotBall this year. I was intrigued with the KIPR Open during GCER 2010 in July. I would like to work with my grandson, a High School senior this year, to build a robot for the competition next year.

First question: From reading the current rule set it would seem that it became available last year around September. Is that the time-line when the rules for the KIPR Open 2011 are expected to be released? Or, will it follow the same time-line as BotBall, which is generally released in January/February?

Second question: From reading the current rule set it would seem that processors, building, etc. of the robots is a little more lenient (read, you don't have to stick to a specific kit) as long as all robotic items weigh less than 22 pounds, are less than equal to 4 items, small enough to fit in the bounding box, and doesn't in some way damage other robots in the competition. Is there a specific limitation on the amount of metal used? I'm thinking of camera mounts and a possible arm which might have some metal parts to hold servos. This idea may change of course depending on the new rule set.

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Kim Woodward

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Since no one has posted a response, I'll try to answer some of these questions. My answers may not be completely accurate, so hopefully someone could correct them.

1. I think that the KIPR Open rules are indeed posted around the beginning of the year with the botball rules. (January)

2. I don't think there are metal restrictions as long as it is in the weight limit. I know SIUE had quite large metal robotic arms holding several servos last season, as well as an EEE netbook for the processor.

Sorry for my vagueness. If no one else responds I would recommend emailing KIPR with your questions.

Thanks,
Braden

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The Kipr Open rules are usually posted much sooner than the regular botball rules (in the fall), however it does undergo a little bit of updating over time. My mentor has done Kipr Open (Beyond Botball) for 6 years and it is usually this way.

There really is no material restriction other than the weight limit, and danger limit. So metal is unlimited as long as it is under the weight. There are also rules that restrict the releasing of liquids and gases while on the field. So i'm guessing hydrolics and pneumatics are okay as long as the gasses are under a certain pressure. (100 bar i'm pretty sure?)

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Thanks everyone for the quick response. This puts my mind a little more at ease on the subject. I didn't want to go off and think in multiple different directions (as I am prone to do) without a little sanity check.

KGW

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All the information so far has been correct. We Just posted the 2011 KIPR Open rules and FAQ!

Rules:

http://kipr.org/gcer/kipr-open-tournament

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