Botball 2012 Kit Suggestions

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KIPR Matthew
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Please post any suggestions you have for the 2012 Botball Kit here!

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A set of extender cables for the sensors (4-pin wide) would be welcome. We have a tendency to dead reckon all the time, and I've been fighting against that. This year our team came up with putting a switch on the far end of the fuel basket. A victory for my efforts, but they couldn't get the wires back to plug in, and they had to use two servo extenders. Later they needed another servo extender and ...

The camera would have been extremely useful for the construction-bot, but with our team's design footprint, the cable would have extended out of the start box. The little USB extender is welcome (you can actually mount the camera in a stable condition), but a right-angle adapter would be ideal. Sure, we could have turned the CBC around, but this is student design, and I try to stay out of it.

In short, why not encourage the use of sensors by making them easier to use. U-Glu is great, but the items mentioned above need attention, too.

We love the CBC-V2, and the formal programming class is working on full PID controls, but there they can do whatever is needed. The metal parts and screws are great.

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I have a suggestion for the sensor-extender problem. Why not just allow teams to bend pins on sensor and extender connectors? Admittedly, this doesn't solve polarity issues, but the extenders have color-coded wires anyway and teams that really need a sensor extender can surely be careful enough to hook up wires the right way round.

This way there's no extra labor/cost on KIPR's side. Just a thought.

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Or just limit how much "extra wire" a team can use. I soldered wires for all my servo, motor, and sensor extensions. However, great care must be taken for that to happen.

I even created a free hanging wire for the gooseneck camera since I wanted mobility freedom. The current camera doesn't allow for camera movement. I would not recommend any teams doing that since it was very tedious taking off the gooseneck and then soldering those blasted tiny wires.

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@wmyers, don't forget, us Botballers aren't allowed any wire. It is against the rules to modify any kit parts besides bending metal and cutting servo horns.

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I was suggesting that we could allow botball teams to do so.

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I think* we will be adding a way to extend sensor next year.

@wes, Starting last year we gave teams a small USB extension to allow for greater camera movement.

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Great suggestions, my team has those problems too.

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Is it possible to keep the ET sensor? I know it's been discontinued, but is it still possible to buy it in bulk?

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We miss having two large top hat sensors. They are much easier to mount than the small ones and do not have to be nearly as close to the ground.

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