Botball Public Opinion Polling (BPOP) Nominations

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Jeremy Rand
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As YAC President Tess Niehoff announced at GCER, we are starting up the Botball Public Opinion Polling (BPOP) Nominations. What is BPOP? It's YAC's method of providing hard data to KIPR on what the teams want to be improved in Botball, and the best ways to achieve those improvements.

How does it work? In this thread, you post a simple yet precise suggestion for how YOU think Botball can be improved. For example, "Remove the Create" or "Add alliance matches to every regional" or "Add acceleration control to the CBC libraries" are all valid suggestions. (Note that YAC is not expressing opinions about these examples; they are there solely to show the form which your nominations should take.) You may post as many suggestions as you want.

After nominations close (at a date to be announced), the suggestions will be posted on an online poll, where you may rank the suggestions from best to worst (and state which ones you think are good, bad, or are indifferent to). The results will be made public and forwarded to KIPR.

THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR DISCUSSION OF THE SUGGESTIONS. You post your suggestion and leave. Discussion of suggestions can be done in other threads as you wish. You should not be talking to anyone in this thread; your post should consist of 1 sentence which forms your suggestion. Nonconforming posts will be deleted.

All rules for BPOP are subject to change at any time, as YAC or KIPR sees fit.

So, without further rambling on my part, start posting your suggestions!

-Jeremy Rand
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Add acceleration control to BoB :D

Better sensor(s) for long range measurement / amplify current sonar

Control motors / servos from touch screen

Software awards!! (since most seem to be hardware-related)

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Two starting boxes for each team: one, 18" x 15" and one 12" x 12" (or something along those lines)

Multiple height levels incorporated in the game.

More randomness to the field, i.e. positions of the scoring zones and scoring items.

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Improved board construction documentation, including advice on possibly unfamiliar procedures. (For a while, it was a complete puzzle to our team how to slice up this year's FRP surface, since none of us are or know home improvement specialists.)

Camera in kit needs more stable mounting mechanism available. The current rigid-cable camera has a tendency to shift itself whenever the robot is nudged, unless secured in some fashion (zip ties etc). The old XBC camera could plug directly into the XBC without cables IIRC.

Controller needs faster boot-up time. The old XBC controllers booted up in literally 5 to 6 seconds. The CBC takes several times that long.

Controller shouldn't self-discharge when "off".

Make extra "power toys" available on the controller (communication, a graphics API, a user-interface API, etc, etc) so that our team has something to mess around with during the off-season. Optionally include an extra LED that lights up when features that are not competition legal (Bluetooth anyone? :P) are being used, kind of like the inverse of the TI-nspire's testing mode.

Ben Yuan, Team Leader
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Interactive tab in kiss-c.

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MUCH more publicity....Botball is currently a well-kept secret.

More software awards: best documented, modular, clever, etc.

Funniest team true-story award

More scholarship/intern tie-ins.

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Add more extensions to the kit (for motors, servos, and sensors).

Add more long bolts to the kit.

Have cameras without the flex-tube in the kit.

Have pre-made servo / motor mounts in the kit.

Include a better (more secure) hardware for sensor mounting.

Starting box shouldn't have pipe on the game table side (allows for second bot to exit without getting blocked or the need to use kit parts to make a ramp).

Add alliance matches to every regional.

Add plans for a claw for the create demo bot.

Have a well developed library (especially a navigation program) for the create demo bot and the other demo bot.

Manuals should include actual code examples.

Add the ability for objects (ball, botguy, poms) to be put in the KISS Sim program.

Add the ability for other robots to be put in the KISS Sim program.

Use metal hardware that matches legos better than the IFI hardware.

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Yay... Alliance matches! It would be cool if these were at regionals, but I'm not sure how it would be implemented given that teams need more time than they are given to meet with each other and coordinate. This is especially true for smaller regions (less time and less teams). In a bigger region it may be able to be stretched to a two-day event.

I also had the idea of a 'surprise' robotics problem. Teams would be given an objective at, say, 8 AM. The competition would be at 2 PM, and the teams would need to be ready by then. The objective would obviously not be as complicated as a regular Botball game, but then again I saw how quick our kids can work when under the gun from our Alliance performance. You may also want to limit the 'surprise' kit parts, like a CBC, two motors, two servos, and a bunch of LEGO.

Jeff Cumber
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atomicinf and Mr.CfromLee, could you please reformat your posts to be one short sentence per suggestion, as per the rules in the first post? If you think your suggestion merits more description and/or discussion, feel free to start a new topic and make your short sentence a link to it. (atomicinf, perhaps the powertoys would be suited for this?) Thanks!

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Looking for New Robotics Modes

I have been looking around for new modes and methods for sharing robotics knowledge and joy to expand the scope and size of educational robotics. Through our RCC [Robotics Curriculum Clearinghouse] I found another model for robotics collaboration. Checkout
http://robotics.nasa.gov/rcc/detailed.php?ID=1030 and the referenced High Tech Kids website.
Maybe we should try some of their methods, and at least invite them to try Botball when they age out of FLL.

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Hey Terry, nice to see you here. Could you make a new discussion thread for that topic? This thread is for BPOP nominations, and we'd like it to stay on that topic so that people can easily see all the nominations by reading through the thread. Thanks!

atomicinf and Mr.CfromLee: as has already been asked, could you edit your posts so that they conform to the format specified at the top of the thread? You've had several days to make those edits. Please make the edits ASAP. Thanks. :-)

-Jeremy Rand
Senior Programmer, Team SNARC (2012-2013), Norman Advanced (2010-2011), Norman HS (2008-2009), Norman North (2005-2007), Whittier MS (2003-2004)
2012-2013 VP of Tech, 2011 President, Botball YAC (2009-2013)
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